It is safe to give an address to a professional vendor?

[Cranston]

Let's assume buying a few grams of chemical of a well rated professional vendor within your country where no dead drop is possible.
Let's neglect the risk that a small, stealthy letter could be seized, if there are no customs.

Still there is one issue, this is only for the buyer (the vendor is without any risk because of crypto payment):

The buyer must give an address to the vendor in order to receive the chemical.
I guess it's a risk that depends only how the vendor is handling the information.

Best would be, after receiving the address the process is quick and all address/name data will be deleted directly after sending.
Does anyone know how this is handled? Can professional vendors can be trusted? Are there cases where addresses/names leaked from vendors?

Thank you very much for your opinions and experiences.

 

[Gordon Ramsay]

Telling from most seizures the assumption that vendors delete adresses is a hopium. I am selling myself but honestly, there is alwys adresses that are kept longer than I would like to. Having delays on orders, lost packages or a package being stuck in customs can be factors that have your adress sitting on someones computer for even over a month. So now imagine, how likely is it that the vendor is keeping this data in an encrypted format? Shiny Flakes had it encrypted but the passphrase was written on a piece of paper in his bedroom, just as on example.

In general giving out an adress is always a leak, no matter how it is handled.
If you are undergoing the procedure of willingly leaking information about yourself, even if it is just your country of origin, make sure it is not a direct connection to you.

Use PO boxes, fake names, fake adresses or dead mail boxes if possible. If you would have to use your home adress and your own name, don't make the purchase

 

[Cranston]

Thank you very much for the elaboration, Gordon Ramsay,

Actually a vendor could minimize the risk with senseful actions like encrypting or better holding information only for a mimimum time (it could reprovided only when needed)
What do you think how many percent of buyers use address that could be tracked to them? Even using the real name and address?

It is not that easy to find a dead mail box etc...
Getting a fake id? Really, for a purchase of 20$? The fake id itself is a great risk.

One could use a relay mailer which provides an anonymous address, but still this relay mailer needs an address where to relay sent the mail. I am not sure if this adds some kind of security.

 

[Gordon Ramsay]

Thank you very much for the elaboration, Gordon Ramsay,

Actually a vendor could minimize the risk with senseful actions like encrypting or better holding information only for a mimimum time (it could reprovided only when needed)
What do you think how many percent of buyers use address that could be tracked to them? Even using the real name and address?

It is not that easy to find a dead mail box etc...
Getting a fake id? Really, for a purchase of 20$? The fake id itself is a great risk.

One could use a relay mailer which provides an anonymous address, but still this relay mailer needs an address where to relay sent the mail. I am not sure if this adds some kind of security.

AlphaPipeI wont give any exaxct numbers but much more than you think use their actual adress, potentially also name
I have had people where I was almost 100% certain that they even had themselves, their body parts or animals on their darknet profile pictures.

You can just build a dead mailbox actually so you dont have to find it. Just find an abandoned adress and set up a mail box there.

 

[Cranston]

I wont give any exaxct numbers but much more than you think use their actual adress, potentially also name
I have had people where I was almost 100% certain that they even had themselves, their body parts or animals on their darknet profile pictures.

You can just build a dead mailbox actually so you dont have to find it. Just find an abandoned adress and set up a mail box there.

Gordon RamsayTheir body parts... lol, I do not want to see that.

It could be a good idea with an abandoned address, but in many cities/countries you won't find abandoned places in a radius of 200 miles.
I had the idea before of installing or "abusing" a mailbox in a house with a big number of appartments. But they all have a janitor who will remove any rogue mailbox within minutes.

 

[Gordon Ramsay]

Their body parts... lol, I do not want to see that.

It could be a good idea with an abandoned address, but in many cities/countries you won't find abandoned places in a radius of 200 miles.
I had the idea before of installing or "abusing" a mailbox in a house with a big number of appartments. But they all have a janitor who will remove any rogue mailbox within minutes.

AlphaPipeHands it is what I mean
But I have seen a thread recently where the guy that has the girlfriend with the uggliest ass would get 500EUR..you would not believe how many people posted their girlfriend with proof tag written on their ass

Check what Frit Buchner just wrote

 

[Cranston]

There must be some vendors who can be trusted, that they at least encrypt the information securely, aren't there?

 

[Gordon Ramsay]

There must be some vendors who can be trusted, that they at least encrypt the information securely, aren't there?

AlphaPipeSure but I#d still just not use my full real details.

 

[Frit Buchner]

Send it your address the name of the last occupant? At least that would give you one level of deniability. I receive mail from the last 5 tenants. The position of the authority is I have to write return to sender on it if I want them to take it back and if the person left no forwarding address, they must deliver it, even knowing that person is no longer here